Hi y'all! I am 21 years old and am dating two guys at the moment. I cannot decide but I think it's time to take things a step further for me.
I don't know what to do, helllpp!
Guy 1: 23yo, goes to university like me, met him on Tinder and we really, REALLY have a LOT in common. When we hang out there is never a silent moment. But he's a bit "robotic", sometimes it looks like he's reading a script, laughters included. Doesn't have a car and lives pretty far (at least 40 minutes of bus). There has never been a flirt. Just some "I like talking with you"s and he already asked me if I think it would work between us.
Guy 2: 27yo, met him on a night out, he didn't go to uni but has just a diploma, works as a cook. He's passionate and I really like how we look at each other.
He even found me a job at his restaurant. Has a car and we manage to see each other pretty often. Bought me a flower and complimented me.
Both of them are kind, pay for me and etc.
I feel like my heart beats for 2nd guy, and my mind "beats" for the first. I don't really know what to do. What do you say? What would you do?
Since you asked, I say continue to casually date them for the time being to get a better feel for them. I've known 1 or 2 guys who seemed to have an internal script and it's not cute after a while. The no car thing is a hard pass for me personally. However, idk where you live and how reliable public transportation is. The guy who got you a job where he works, keep an eye out for any signs of possessiveness or questioning from him on why you were talking to male coworkers. He might be a genuinely decent guy, but for your sake, I say keep things casual for now.
They both sound LVM/NVM to be honest. Focus on yourself and enjoy your life. Let them do the work and lean back.
They both sound like trash. Can we get the handbook up in here? It seems to be badly needed.
Read the handbook and date more guys :)
As a 22 year old, I’m gonna have to say no to both of them. I’ve dated men with no cars, and they end up being the most value men I’ve come across. A man without a car is not even attractive to me anymore, I could careless if he’s in college or not, he should have a car in his 20s. The older guy, how much money does he make ? And yes, I care about money as well, by the age of 27, he’s had more than enough time to get his shit together financially ! If he does not have his shit together then you need to drop him, most cooks don’t make that much money. And yes finances do matter, how much money a man is willing to make tells me about his drive, and I love a man with good drive. I use to be just like, you settling for men who in all honesty, really couldn’t do much for me. And while I think it’s nice that they pay for dates (as they always should), and they seem respectful so far, don’t stick around with a man who’s not at his full potential or at least taking genuine steps to get there if he’s in college. I’m telling you, messing with a man who has no car never ends well, they tend to be very lazy and unmotivated. I may be 22 but trust me when I say I’ve been dating men my whole entire life, as young as 11 (I’m aware that this is far too young but I was s*xually abused so I was doing grown stuff too soon). I can honestly say that you can do better, the fact that you can’t decide or even have to ask shows me that you KNOW you can do better…so do better. Find other people. But then again, this is just my bias, so if you decide that talking to both is what you truly want then by all means do so. Genuinely wishing you the best in whatever you decide to do, and don’t forget that you are the prize !
Neither. You are wayyyyyyyyy too young to think you need to settle down. Neither of these men is a good match and the older one is with you because women his own age don't fall for his shit anymore.
Dump them both. Stay single for a while, get yourself settled in your own life first and then you can figure out what you really want.
Neither. You’re 21. Date until you find someone who matches your mind AND heart. And spirit, and humor, and sex, and finances, and education. Listen to the most recent FDS podcast about setting standards. Write yourself a list of ideals. First start by what you offer: physically, spiritually, mentally, and financially. If you’re not your own ideal, then level up. If you are your own ideal, then write an ideal (physically, spiritually, mentally, financially) for a partner. Write EVERYTHING, even it seems like a stretch. Highlight what is absolutely 💯 not negotiable. Stick with only dating men that have the standards from this list. Add to it as many times as you need to. And, never ever ever compromise your non negotiables. NEVER. Good luck :)
Neither...reread the handbook because the red flags are so obvious Guy 1: 🚩have a lot in common + robotic, seems fake : trust your gut. There's a good chance he's just mirroring you to make y'all bond more. Start randomly changing your opinions and if he changes too, drop him 🚩never date a man without a car. He shouldn't be dating if he doesn't at least have a car. Very dusty behavior and poor prioritization 🚩if there's no romantic chemistry and he doesn't even flirt, he's not even interested. I just feel like he wants a gf for sex and companionship, but he doesn't actually like you as a partner. You're just gonna be filling a space in his life This is an acquaintance at best Guy 2: 🚩AGE GAP. I'm 25 and guys my age and older and they never take women under the age of 22 seriously. When I was younger and dealing with men that were 5+ years older, I would always get hurt. I would catch feelings and they didn't feel the same, because I was in a very different phase of life from them. Your highest age should be 24. 🚩men go for women your age, because you're naive and easier to fool and older women can see through their BS. 🚩having a car, compliments, and buying you one little flower is the barely the bare minimum. At his age and income, he should be doing a lot more. That's the only pro of dating an older man. You're too easily impressed and selling yourself short. 🚩 don't take the job. If things go left, he can have you blackballed because he's the older man and can paint you as the psycho baby ex gf. Do nice, extravagant stuff for yourself so you won't be so impressed by these little things. Focus on your education, health, self esteem and friendships but also keep dating (after reading the handbook and other material at least twice). Date other college students and young professionals (21-24) and practice spotting red flags and cutting them off. Don't get physical with them quickly, avoid fwbs
A big cross on both. Don't waste your time with people who don't put in the effort & age gaps. Invest this time in yourself. A lot of women regret their dating choices, especially when they are this young
The best option is neither. First guy sounds non-committal and lukewarm towards you. Meeting on tinder counts against him, and being "robotic" indicates lack of chemistry. He sounds best as a uni friend/study buddy. Second guy might be more attractive to you but probably nothing more beyond some fun. Do you see yourself with this guy long term? Do you see this guy being a partner in the long run? Compliments are bare minimum and a flower isn't a lot. Other comments have talked at length about how shady cooks are. This guy sounds like an underachiever for his age. Having a car, giving 1 flower might be impressive at your stage but he's likely way behind his peers. Don't chain yourself down to either of these dudes. You can do way better and should be focusing on yourself in the meantime.
What would I do? Keep looking!! LOL. Actually leaning towards guy 1 depending on what he is studying. But I’m much older, happily married for well over a decade and know what qualities I value in a man. What are YOU looking for? For example, I knew I ultimately wanted a man who would be a good father to our kids. I wanted a man who could provide financially - he needed to be on track for a good salary. I wanted someone generous, but also practical with his money - pay for dates without complaint, but no frivolous spending. He needed to be patient and determined, since kids can be a handful - for this I observed how he dealt with problems. He needed to able to maintain a home since I planned on working full time too - no slobs! And above all, needed him to care about me, be able to care for me if I got sick and value my opinion. Hope that can help get you thinking on what ultimately matters to you and what qualities you want in a partner.
A 21 year old and 27 year old are at two different stages in their lives. One is still going to school and the other should be settled with their full-time career. Also, working together with an ex is a BIG NO GO. I don’t have personal experience doing this, but people have dated and broken up at my old jobs. It’s the most awkward thing ever. Never EVER date your coworkers. At 21 you are still very naive and I’d say dip both of these guys and focus on you girl
Neither. Invest in yourself and work on your level up journey. Your standards are too low and you sound immature. You shouldn’t be dating yet because at this stage you will be easy to exploit. Not sure if this is a troll post, but read the handbook. Not going to coddle you and enable high risk decision making, you need to invest in yourself to protect yourself.
I'm going to cut to the chase but kindness, passion, and how someone looks at you doesn't pay the bills, doesn't guarantee financial stability, nor it shows how (even if you do or don't want kids) how he will raise your kids. Hope this isn't a troll, but please read the handbook. It is not just about paying for dates and giving gifts. Vet like your life depends on it. Your decision on securing a partner has deep implications going forward. The wrong partner can cost you your finances, your health, your life even.
Don’t let either of them tell you that you have to take things a step further before you’re ready. Men worth keeping will respect you for making them wait until you graduate college and land a job in your field.
I think you need to go and read the handbook. Both of these men are def not good for you. Don’t forget, the time you waste with someone who is not meant for you, is time wasted from finding the man who is meant for you. I was like this at 21 too, please just focus on yourself and your school. It will be far more worth it than settling.
Eh. Honestly, as a 22 year old woman they both sound like duds and I think you can do WAY better. The first guy is age appropriate but sounds like he’s lying to you (you picking up scripts is a problem, trust your gut that he’s not saying what he wants to say, but something rehearsed/what you want to hear) and he doesn’t have a mode of transport and lives super far away. Also, if he wanted you to be his gf he’d just say that, not ask if you think it would work. He’s not chasing you enough. And the 27 year old is a joke, he’s a loser who can’t get women his own age. Trust me, there’s nothing virtuous about dating down and dating a man that much older than you when you’re literally in college is dating down. Big time. Also, you work with him??? NO!!! Also, does the first guy NOT compliment you? What??? I think the most these dudes can offer is entertainment, but they don’t seem like very worthwhile partners.
Guy 1: tinder is a red flag. Depending on where you live, not having a car is a red flag as well. If it's not a "hell yes" from you as well, it's a hell no. Guy 2: too much of an age gap. Like another poster said, a 27 year old guy with no degree who works as a cook is not going to impress 27 year old women--which is why he's going younger. A flower and a compliment are the bare minimum.
Nooo to the age gap, but I’m not sure if guy #1 is good either, but obviously that’s your choice
Please listen to the song no Scrubs repeatedly. A man who is 23 years old has had enough time to have a part-or full time job to buy a beater car. No car and lives 40 minutes away, acts like a robot and you met in a hookup app? I'm rolling my eyes