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In a way they do know but their inflated egos make them think that even their laziest attempts are "pleasuring" their partner.
I agree. My latest ex was absolutely the most terrible man in bed I’d ever had. Yet, he thought he was wonderful.
It is literally laughable how BAD he actually was at sex and touching a woman compared to how great he perceives himself to be.
Every time I would try to tell him how to do something or I would say something did not feel good, he would say “other girls liked it”.
Since no woman EVER likes things like awkward (VERY AWKWARD to the point where it doesn’t feel remotely sexy & good but rather - weird) groping and nipple tweaking - I told him they were either lying, or he was mistaken they found it pleasurable.
I’m thinking it was both. They lied, out of insecurity, rather than be honest, and he was so into ONLY himself - that he was clueless about that fact.
@Jenna It's so sad that men can't even take the time and effort to really explore our sexuality with us. We could all enjoy ourselves a little more. I enjoy sex MUCH more when I know my man is having a great experience. I just wish our experience was as important to them.
Exactly. But not only are they neglecting our sexuality, they are neglecting their own.
Their idea of “exploring sexuality” is to basically use a woman’s body to merely masturbate with, or to use it to facilitate a sexual deviancy or fetish for his benefit or for bragging purposes.
I believe this is why so many of the MGTOW men say they will just hire prostitutes rather than have a relationship. With a prostitute, they can just pay, and do what I’ve mentioned above, because - that’s what’s she’s paid to do. With a woman who is wanting an actual relationship, they are expected to do more than just gratify themselves or - the woman will complain/cut him off/leave.
Very, very true. When they use us for a "pump and dump" they are missing the big picture. The MGTOW group hires prostitutes for instant gratification. By negating a meaningful relationship they are missing out on the deep love, affection and care that we, as women, provide for our lovers.
They are missing out, but I really don’t think members of mgtow, incels, or any of the other misogynistic groups are deep enough to be capable of what love really is.
I doubt they ever step outside of their victim mentality, laziness, selfishness, and shallowness to ever become real men capable of real love.
Most of them force their idea of sexual pleasure onto others and call it "caring". That is, if they already give two s*hits about others in the first place.