I've touched base a bunch of times about the importance of not making the first move as a woman after learning such a valuable lesson from both The Handbook, as well as the recommended FDS books list. And it's really because we've seen a shift in the heterosexual dating world after the late 90s-early 2000s hit, where it slowly becomes more normalized that women ought to make the first move if she likes the chap enough to score with him. When it was first introduced, it was around the time that women were especially taking over so much of the public society; divorce was on the rise when women realized they didn't have to put up with abuse or infidelity any longer, women are now in office, women are doing big kid jobs like government, law, medicine, computer engineering etc etc, women are able to sue their husbands for marital rape in the united states (It wasn't outlawed until 1991, I think!), women can easily open up credit lines, own property in their own name, take birth control without having to marry, the works. We were really coming together as a group of strong, confident women able to take care of ourselves.
So, of course, misogyny always tries to find a way to slow us down, and one subtle way to do this, is to sabotage our efforts in finding long lasting love. And that starts with the notion that women have to make the first move, have to keep "performing" to keep the men interested, has to keep tabs on him, actively plan things for couple activities, have to reminding him of upcoming anniversaries, pick up after him, workout to look like his favorite actress or porn star, reminding him to call to schedule appointments with the doctors, never mind reminding him to not to forget to call her tonight!! All this on top of child rearing and household chores that he almost never helps out. Dating quickly became an exhausting loop where women put in 90% of the effort, and men a measly 10%, and suddenly, the 50/50 argument goes right out the window.
As a millennial born woman, I became susceptible of this brainwashing and thought I had to do a lot to catch a man's attention and keep him around. I took on the role of the pursuer, because I didn't wanted to be like all the other girls who were 'bad' in these men's eyes. I made sure to be as communicative as possible. I made the first move on a few men before. I made myself not appear intimidating, or too smart, or too 'good' at anything, so that he would feel relaxed around me. I tried to impress a man's friends, parents, siblings, and even tried to make some nice with ex girlfriends. I would text and call and email if he 'forgot' to. I was like a little dancing monkey, convinced I was doing all the right things. With male friends, I've made sure to perform a lot of emotional labor for them, especially the ones that I have had feelings of attraction for. The last one I did that was last year, and it was a brutal wake up call after how that ended.
In both media and in the real world, I've noticed something. The happiest couples in the world, were the ones where the man is respected in his position as the masculine pursuer and provider, and the women were allowed to rest in her feminine state. Now, this is very hard for me to type this out, because I had my stint with radical feminism since 2018 when I left my first marriage; it became a haven for me to heal from the domestic violence he inflicted upon me for so many years, and radical feminism did saved me. I agreed with so many points it made, and was critical of gender roles. But I think I want to change my mind on that last part now. I realize, before radical feminism when I tried to be both masculine and feminine (a most popular normal way to be), and during radical feminism when I tried to be especially independent and masculine, I was deeply unhappy with myself. I didn't let myself truly get vulnerable, soft, and being in touch with my emotional experiences. I felt divorced from my body, if that made any sense.
To me, being feminine means letting everything go and trusting that it will work out the way it is intended to, without any of my interferences or controlling the outcome. This was and still is very difficult for me to put this into mind because of being a certain way for nearly my entire life. Putting on an agender/bigender/masculine mask may have helped protect me in some ways, but it left me shattered when men decided I wasn't good enough to commit to. Or if they did, they did it out of begrudging realization that they cannot do any better than me, and wished I was someone else. I always felt it and it always hurt me so badly. Didn't I do enough? Did I had to do more than I've done now? Was I not kind enough, helpful enough, communicative enough, providing enough????
I realize now, that the women both in real life and in fiction, who don't lift their fingers to catch and keep a man, who just sits back and lets him be the one to go after her, work out the important little details himself, give her his wallet, perform for her viewing pleasure, were ironically the women who quickly were presented with commitment, without applying any pressure on the man at all. If he forgets to ring her up, she'll pretend she doesn't remember him and go out on a night in town with her friends or a new fellow. If he decides to spend time with an ex-girlfriend instead of her on a date, the woman who does nothing wouldn't say anything and just block him to make way for someone else to come in. The man whose parents, family, and friends disrespect her even once is all she needs as confirmation that this relationship ain't it, and quietly make her exit. She doesn't cry. She doesn't plead. She doesn't perform for him or for anyone. If you give her a bad time, she'll branch out to another person or another experience to get back into her happy place.
Younger people nowadays who enjoy watching that show "Euphoria" always have this to say about the love triangle between Nate, Maddy, and Cassie: "It's the way Cassie does so much for Nate that he never notices it, yet Maddy doesn't have to do anything and he gives her bouquets of roses just because." (Note: I am aware it's a highly abusive relationship, this is just one of the many examples for this topic.)
This is also why men leave their wives for their carefree mistresses. How many times have you've heard, "I've done everything for him. I've sacrificed so much for him. I was there for him when no one else was. And he left me for a woman he met just one month ago."? Although the men and the mistress are both seriously in the wrong from a moral perspective, from a biological/evolutionary viewpoint, it unfortunately makes sense as to why it happened. The mistress was the woman who didn't do anything and he loved that about her, just as men have much love, attraction, and respect for women who don't do anything, either. The women who do a lot or too much, on the other hand, gets nothing in the end. The women who do so much for her boyfriend, husband, sex partner, or male friends, get kicked to the curb when the men come across the dream girl who has too much respect for herself to get her hands dirty for him.
The next time you meet a man that you are especially smitten by, the one thing that I can guarantee will pique his interest is to do the following: Absolutely nothing. If he doesn't do anything either, then you'll have your answer, and you won't have to suffer from his cheating, domestic violence, or other horrible things that will take you twice as long to get over long after the break up or divorce is finalized.
Excellent advice! The more you do, the more you have to lose. Unfortunately, whoever cares less wins. We might as well make sure that we as women are good on our own before inviting anyone else into our lives.
Excellent summary of why things are 💩 for women today. I also fully agree we should be doing less than the man, he has way more to prove to us.
The truth is that today is bad, but old style gender roles are not good either. It doesn't matter what you think femininity is, men think it is something else. Marriage to most men is no prize. They might accept us going back to the old roles, but it's a trap.
We need something forward thinking to liberate women. We need to be free to be ourselves, not forced into a role. I believe they are putting pressure on us so we think that a 1950s style lifestyle would be better. But it's not.
Wow I love this post so much! really resonated with me because I've tried very hard to play the masculine role you've described and got my heart stomped on and really lost all my respect for the men I did all that work for.
Trying to manage his life, build him up, spoil him with planned trips and gifts really just puts us in the mothering role. Yeah I think once you take a step back and stop trying so damn hard to be perfect for the man, good things can finally come. You'll weed out the men who need to be built up simply by not caring enough to build their asses up. Once you realize he can't make his own doctor's appointments you'll lose interest. When you stop trying to give him 5 million gifts and planning everything it gives you a chance to stop and pay attention to if he's even capable of doing things like that for YOU. When we are trying to play manager mom wifey for these boys it really stresses us out and clouds our judgement.
And the faster you boot the men who need mommies out of your life the sooner you open up the door to fully capable men who want to treat you well. Good men enjoy making life easy for you and they know that keeping you happy gives them a great return.
Pretty much sums it up what is wrong with us these days ! I read somewhere on fds something about " become totally useless to him " and you will know if he really likes you .
I definitely do the “oh he flaked? You bet I’m going out with my gal pals!” Routine. Weirdly though, over time, won’t the mistress fall into the wife’s role, so how does that end?
Very true. However it is necessary to show some interest--not actual "pursuit" but a little flirting goes a long way. Otherwise a HVM will not pursue (it is bad manners to pursue a woman who is clearly not interested). The FDS podcast ep. on flirting explains this nicely.
I really love this. Especially about why we enter into feminism, sometimes we have to be alone and struggle and that masculine energy can save you during these really hard times (I.e a marriage ending, leveling up in your job etc etc) * It’s a cold world. So when you enter your soft stage and are truly feminine, you’ll never want to leave. You’ll realize how hard you were in survival mode and quietly thank the old masculine you, but you never need to go back. * I agree that when you are soft, it can be hard to resist reaching out first to the man, being forceful to get what you want but you no longer need to. You’ll never catch an L if you rest in your feminine. He’ll try hard to claim you or he won’t, you’ll win either way, because no one wants to chase a man anyway. Beautiful post and well explained. My soft stage has been the best stage so far ❤️
Loved the post !! Btw thank you 🥰 saving it to my fds folder 😆