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doesn't it just bother you how women are obligated to wear a stupid rag on their heads when entering a church or a Mosque?! As if a woman's hair is something shameful and disgraceful that needs to be hidden to not taint the holly sacredness of these places 🙄
Men get to enter these places with their heads exposed with no problem while women must put a rag on their heads to not "offend" the house of god, as if a woman's hair is beneath those spaces!
I once refused to enter a mosque because I was told by a bald scrote to wear a rag on my head if I were to enter and I refused and left...I see women from all over the world and from different ethnicities and different faiths (or the lack thereof) coming to visit those places (for tourism purposes) agree to putting that shit on their heads! None of them object on the outright misogyny and sexism that comes with this practice!
It's really upsetting seeing women being meek and accommodating to such practice...Do they have no dignity?
I wouldn't have had a problem if men were also required to wear a veil, but they are NOT! It's the double standard that I can't stand!
It also leaves me thinking how men Have always been excluding women from certain spaces using different forms of exclusion whether it was by prohibiting women from entering a religious space or requiring these women to put on a rag if they were to enter, or by not allowing women to be in positions of power and authority. Yet they lose it at only-female spaces like FDS... They can't take an ounce of what they dish out
As someone who grew up in a religious background, and tried it on for a while, religion is anti-women's rights and fundamentally patriarchal. Religion is absolutely incompatible with women ever achieving a level playing field.
this, along with the hindu(?) belief that women on their periods are unfit to enter the temple due to their "uncleanliness", is the main reason why i am an atheist. religion will never stop being misogynistic because they are mainly run and controlled by misogynistic men.
Even when I was a believer I stopped going to orthodox churches and only went to catholic ones exactly because of this reason (even though I was supposed to go to the orthodox ones). Putting something on my head to cover my hear felt insulting as men didn't have to do it. So I totally get what you mean
Men can show their hair because women have enough self control not to rape them in front of the whole congregation. The men are not held to the same standards. These women are made to cover up because the blame is put on them when those men don’t have self control and give in to the desires of their erect penises. They are blamed for being raped or even having someone in the congregation looking at them with desire. Women as a class are punished for the erections and impure desires of men in these environments. The onus is on them to cover their beauty instead of expecting grown men to have self control.
Careful with that kind of talk. There might be liberals here who will call you racist and islamaphobic
I feel as if religious women overlook ALOT of things to begin with, it makes the head covering thing seem like nothing. Because let's say God's hypothetically real, it means they're perfectly fine with murder (sometimes endorsers it or hell flat out commits it themselves) disease, death, famine, violence, poverty, getting handicapped (or born with conditions that effect people's quality of life), misogyny, uhhh.... Eternal torture. Hell, some religions people say GOD does the punishing, which realllllly does not help their case. It's crazy that women would rather spend an eternity being insulted; the stuff people will believe in to not face their mortality. Even if an afterlife is real going by my other points, it seems like we're going to hell regardless of the lifestyle.
To make myself clear, I said that I understood you eventhough I am muslim myself, I've been fighting with these thoughts myself for a long period of time until I decided that wearing the veil was not something for me so I removed it. I still wear the veil when I have to pray as it is mandatory. And as far as I know, women entering the Mosques don't have to put a headscarf on, it is only the religious women who should wear a headscarf when they pray, but when they finish then they can remove it.
I belong to a religious organization that says women are required to wear some type of head covering (can be a scarf or a hat, doesn’t really matter) if she’s leading a group in prayer or directing religious services. It’s based on a new testament scripture where the apostle Paul said that it’s shameful for a woman to pray or prophesy without her head covered. I have two problems with this: firstly, it’s based on a local custom that women in the middle east/mediterranean had of covering their hair as a sign of modesty or respect during the first century and before. That custom doesn’t exist in modern times or in the part of the world where I live, so why should I follow it? Paul was talking to a contemporary congregation about something that applied specifically to them. The second misgiving I have is that Paul goes on to say in the same scripture that it is equally shameful for a man to pray or prophesy while wearing something on his head. So, if a man were to follow this scripture, then he should remove his hat before praying. But no one talks about this. It’s all about what occasions a woman needs to wear a head-covering, and what kind is appropriate, but no one says anything about a man removing his hats before praying if he is wearing one. Either the whole scripture applies to everyone, or none of it does to anyone. Why is it on women to uphold a tradition that doesn’t even apply to our own culture, when men are not held to the same standard? I live in an area where it’s not common for men to wear hats inside if they’re dressed nicely, but on the few occasions where I’ve seen men lead a group in prayer while they’re outside, I’ve only once seen a man make a point to remove his hat first. Oh, it’s cold outside? I don’t care. I didn’t want to mess my hair up wearing a beanie, so you can live with your ears getting a little cold. Either that, or let’s just abandon the whole tradition altogether.
The “rag” is called a Hijab. And a lot of women chose to put it on themselves out of respect for their beliefs. Just because you don’t agree with this religion, it doesn’t mean you can bad mouth this religion or the women wearing it. Being an FDS queen doesn’t mean hating on people who follow their faith even if you disagree with it. I am Muslim. I’m not religious and I don’t wear the Hijab, however a lot of my friends do and by choice and others don’t wear it by choice. Wearing it is never mandatory, it’s a choice. Going to a mosque is a respectful place for people of faith and same for church. If you don’t believe in those religions then there is no need to go to these places. Women just blame other women for everything. If they dress modest, they are oppressed. If they dress open, they are sexualizing themselves. It’s getting exhausting. Don’t be judgmental, racist or hate people of faith. I can assure you that my FDS values aligns a lot with my culture and my religion to begin with and how I was raised. There are a lot of things I don’t like or agree with but that doesn’t mean I don’t like my faith because I do.
Also, a lot of men do wear a head cover that looks like a little hat. They also cannot pray with shorts and have to dress with long pants and be modest, clean and smell good.
Personally, I am religious. In my religion it is a choice for women to cover hair as a sign of devotion. It is symbolic to cover your own natural beauty when you are in a worship space to focus on the beauty of God. Men are not viewed as inherently beautiful like women. As far as responses here that blame God for all suffering in the world, well, that’s not the understanding of most religious people. They would say God made the chess board and pieces, but we move the pieces in a broken world. Religious people don’t “love” suffering or the brokenness of the world. They resolve to persevere and not let the inevitable bitter experiences of life and nature corrupt them, in fact they should be drawn closer to God in these situations.