do ugly men know they're ugly?

I see it all the time. One of my friends is very beautiful, like one in a million kind objectively attractive people, and all men take their shot with her - handsome men, ugly men, average men, shy men, timid men. They all do. Even married and "happily" coupled men sometimes embarrass themselves by hitting on her and that had ruined quite a few relationships in our friend groups since we were teens.

The way men behave with her is a constant reminder that a) the vast majorityof them are delusional, entitled and audacious and b) if a man doesn't make it clear that he likes you it's not because he is shy, scared or intimidated, it's because he doesn't like you enough. I've witnessed numerous times how those men suddenly overcome their shyness and fears and make it very clear that they find her attractive and would like to date her. It is very eye opening.

Ugly men know that they are ugly. They know the women they aim at are lightyears out of their leagues.

They shoot for 10/10 because men are generally hypergamous when i comes to physical appearance.

Yes, hypergamous. Everything Redpillers say or claim is a projection of their own character.

The media and thousands of years of history taught them that even the ugliest man is entitled to a gorgeous bangmaid just because he's a male.

Pretty much every movie, TV show, video game etc. shows an ugly guy getting a pretty girl as a "reward" at the end or a character ending up with a wife/girlfriend who is objectively a lot more beautiful than he is but never the other way around. In real life, women are told to settle for an ugly guy all the time because "it's his character that counts". Are you really surprised men internalized that?

Lol, yes, ugly men know they're ugly. However, the difference is that they aren't held to the same standards as women. There are no media outlets telling men to improve their looks in the same way they do for women. Women are constantly told that if they focus on their beauty, they will be rewarded in life.

In contrast, ugly men are often told that they need to be loved as they are, flaws and all. Many women even go out of their way to ensure that these men feel loved despite meeting less than the bare minimum. These types of women project their own insecurities and desires onto these men. They truly believe, on some level, that these men live the same reality as they do, but they do not. Men are not being told that beauty will solve all their problems.

Some do. Some don't. I would also say "ugly" is a lot more subjective than many people like to think. Within certain limits, my "ugly" could be your "gorgeous", and vice versa.

The bottom line is in general, men's prospects in life are not as affected by their appearance as women's prospects in life are by their (women's) appearance. It's one of the unfortunate features of patriarchy. Many women will overlook the physical unattractiveness of a man if he is rich. You see this happen in every country on the planet. These women are the ones encouraging ugly men to be audacious.

And yes, I've always considered it offensive and disgusting when an ugly man tries to shoot his shot with me. I wish ugly men were more humbled by their appearance.

From experience: nope.

They will put themselves out there with his teeth rooting and claim men doesn't need make up to be hot and that women are fake for washing their hair.

I think yes. Ugly people know they're ugly because they're, often, bullied for that specific reason. (I'm in that boat). I think ugly men do that because they decide to ignore the 99% failure rate and only focus on the 1% success they could get. It's like when people buy the lottery. They know their chances are less than minimal, but what if they were to be part of that lucky 0.5% winners? Though it doesn't make much sense for ugly people (in general) to do this as, by flirting with random people around town, you're destroying your own reputation.

From my experience, yes men do know they are ugly - and yes, they shoot their shot hoping to capitalize on what others have mentioned here (happens historically, men are idolized by others if they are victorious in this endeavor, classic beauty and the beast love story, etc.).

While I didn't knowingly prescribe to this - I think my current boyfriend fits this bill. He has continued to comment/point to this fact over and over in the past three years - actually recognizing it as a "real thing". I used to think he may be fishing for compliments - for me to tell him he's good looking/not ugly etc. I really do think his looks are okay - I am attracted to him and do often tell him "he looks good", or "that shirt is flattering to you", "your butt looks good in those jeans", etc. But my sister (truth teller) disagrees and has always said he's ugly - too ugly for me. His looks are very different - I have dated a lot of very sexy men - body builders, professionals in great shape/male calendar models like firefighters, etc. I know there is something more to this now - ugly men brigade - all since stumbling upon this website/group and just recently learning the term "medium ugly" LOL. I have a lot to learn....🤣

They probably don't. Otherwise they wouldn't have the nerve to call others ugly.