"Vox headline: 11/27/23:
You can’t even pay people to have more kids"
I'm a longtime lurker and while I always appreciate all our Queens thoughts, perspectives and humor, I've never felt compelled to post....until I read this story today. I found myself outraged at the utter lack of critical thinking displayed by 'world leaders' and the research communities referenced in this article. By the time I read halfway through the story, my mind was screaming "It's the MISOGYNY, stupid" at the author!
This story details the exhaustive research into why women aren't jumping at the 'opportunity' to be mindless broodmares anymore....yet completely misses the REAL reason: MEN & their bullshit.
Instead of trying to literally force women to have more children, knowing full well that in addition to their careers, physical risks of childbirth, unpaid labor of scrotery, economics, etc. etc. etc., we women have so much more we want to accomplish than to simply be June Cleaver literally serving at the pleasure of men. They're missing the most important factor of all: manchildren and their entitled scrote behaviors.
If the men weren't such lazy, selfish, disgusting, negative value dusties, perhaps the overwhelming work involved in child-rearing wouldn't be so overwhelming for us already utterly exhausted women. The simple act of existing as a woman in today's world is completely exhausting. Adding motherhood to the avalanche of other responsibilities & unrealistic expectations foisted upon women in general is simply a bridge too far for many of us.
Misogyny has been a pandemic for generations and it's only getting worse! I'm eternally grateful to have escaped my childbearing years unscathed and am blissfully, gleefully childfree by choice. This article has helped me be grateful to my menopausal hot flashes as a gentle reminder of my good fortune and wise life choices!
I'd love to hear the community's thoughts!
The decreasing population is only a problem because the western countries all are fixated on endless economic growth, also "muh taxes!!". More jobs are automated and even more will be in the future, so less workers is not the end of the world. They want women to be birthing machines because otherwise the economy would shink a bit and this is something that really hurts the leaders' egoes.
While the state financially supporting parents etc. is a good move, it's only a bandaid solution to the actual problem. When men stop being terrible, maybe more women would consider breeding with them. Otherwise we'd rather be childless than sacrifice our life and bodies to be mindless baby factories for men to fuck and then throw away. But nobody ever mentions that because mobs of angry scrotes would cancel and boycott them for "being misandric".
There was one woman who posted to Reddit not long ago, don’t know why her post spoke to me so deeply. It was probably the pure rage and hatred she felt for her husband after she nearly died in childbirth and only after having her child, realizing this dude wasn’t worth it. He’s not a good partner, he’s not a good father. It was a sobering experience for her and now she has to live with this regret (regret of her choice of mate, not necessarily her child) for the rest of her life. She read as a very strong, determined woman. She was divorcing him. It was a refreshing read as well because finally, a woman taking action! Finally a woman not making excuses, trying to rationalize why she needs to stay in her shitty relationship.
I got sterilized at 19, I don’t regret my decision however now reflecting back on why I got it so young was because I never wanted to experience accidental pregnancy. I never wanted to be tied to a man. I didn’t want to choose to have a child and then realize I made a mistake giving them a bad father. I never wanted to put myself at the mercy of a man. I could still have a child if I truly wanted through IVF. But I would do it alone. With a village of supportive women and fellow mothers. Never with a man. I think more women who are interested in children need to take that approach. Our lives and our children’s lives would be so much better.
Musk said we could add ten billion. Imagine looking around at all the dead forests and enslaved animals in boxes so small they can't move and thinking we need more people.
All women of all races need to have a birth strike until they stop fucking Earth up.
They actually want to destroy the planet because Earth is feminine.
A lot of this IS racial. White dudes want to maintain control through numbers, and American Blacks and Hispanics want to overthrow the system.
Only women banding together will fix this.
All men are actually so evil that they think adding more males LIKE THEM will be a good thing. We need less of everybody. Drastically.
We need nature reserves on MOST of the fucking planet.
Men won’t jump on the anti-natalist bandwagon even if having fewer kids means getting better working conditions. They want kids in name only, judging from how much work they put into raising them. Women pay the price for raising children when living conditions are good and when they’re bad, so it’s reasonable to opt out of having children when we can see our standard of living dropping like a stone. There’s no time and money for kids when adults are barely surviving these days.
I feel like I read somewhere that in Japan they found - to the surprise of probably only the male researchers - that Japanese husbands who took on well over 50% of the childrearing and cleaning responsibilities were 'rewarded' with bigger families and more children (it was a small sample size of course but it was a consistent finding). Well whaddya know, if men actually make parenting bearable, or even pleasant for women by taking on their fair share of the domestic load, women will have more kids. Revolutionary. Stop the presses.
I've never understand why women aren't worshipped and revered for birthing children. Instead they are derided and shamed for it. It's despicable. Men will ridicule women who choose not to have children, and then ridicule a mother's stretch marks and post birth body, and refuse to date a single mom who was abandoned by a shitty scrote. They call women the weaker sex and treat us as second class citizens. But no, don't stop having babies, we neeeeeeeed them!
A great number of men name their daughters after his ex/high school sweetheart. It shows me everything I need to know about how men feel about their children.
Men trap women with babies. Men know women are forever tied to them if she has kids with them
Check out " I regret having children" facebook group and " breaking mom" reddit