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I saw this on the feminist subreddit, and I genuinely can’t believe we’re still having these conversations—women discussing paying half of the bills for men. Of course, the scrotes were happy in the comment section. But you had women saying, “I pay so the man doesn’t expect anything.”
Men, regardless of whether you allow them to pay the bills or split them, will still expect you to have sex with them. That’s the entire reason why most men even talk to women: for sexual access. When will women realize this? Women are getting played so hard in this dating game because they don’t understand their value.
Men desire women far more than women desire men. The 50-50 conversation is such a scam to women. You cannot go 50-50 on pregnancy. Even if you decide not to have children, you still have to factor in all the added value women bring to men’s lives just by being with them, plus the stereotypical gender roles women are expected to take on.
And you have to consider all the risks women take by being with men—men are literally toxic to women’s health. Women decline in marriage and in dating men. The least men can do is compensate women financially to make up for their toxic, diabolical nature.
If a woman goes 50/50, she'll eventually find herself in a situation where she's working full-time, paying half the bills, doing 100% of pregancy and childbirth, doing the bulk of the childcare, doing the bulk of the housework, providing the man with regular sex (even if she's exhausted or doesn't feel like it) and providing the man with emotional labour (and let's face it, most men never reciprocate that emotional labour because most men are terrible at it). Meanwhile, what is the man doing?! He's working and paying half the bills, and not a whole lot else. This is not equality or empowering! This is a raw deal for women!
It’s amazing how incredibly dense these “feminists” are. You explained it perfectly, 50-50 just isn’t possible because women have biological disadvantages compared to men. That isn’t to say we’re inferior, but we face most of the burden and consequences when it comes to sex and child bearing, and we also tend to be smaller and weaker which impacts us 24/7 (especially when it comes to safety). Idc if a scrote has to pay, it’s payback for inequalities we can’t change.
As soon as they end with Patriarchy and pick a side we all know that reeks of a petty manoid. I don’t see anyone of them whine that men need to stop seeing women as a maid.
If a man is not expected to pay for anything then why bother have him? He’d be completely useless. Money is the only thing that compensates dealing with a man..
"STOP asking men to pay for everything."
That's right. A woman on a date with a man should never have to ask and should never ask.
If he asks for 50/50, grab your purse and walk out. No more words need to be exchanged.
Nip this in the bud.
It's not "expecting a man to pay simply because he's a man." It's because we live in a patriarchy that favors men.
It's because men still typically earn more money. It's because men live longer when they are married to women. And as others have pointed out, all the reproductive risk falls on women.
I can get behind the idea that women need to avoid financial dependency on men, but keeping your money, not spending it on a man is a better way to do that.
And I wonder, what this same person's demands are for men.