Nihilism is the believe that nothing matters and humanity is self delusion. Some may find it inspiring(as most atheists do) but personally I find men who are nihilists are lowest levels of scrotes. They believe nothing is amoral in life and they fear nothing( doesn't it sound like a personality disorder?). They have very pessimistic view of life, think they are doomed no matter how pampered and spoiled they are irl. They generally tend to be depressed and antisocial. Also their philosopher Nietzsche had a view that men are superior than women, in general he had negative view of women( He said women was God's second mistake).. No wonder so many red pillers look up to him. Also any Ayn Rand (rape apologist) follower.
What do you ladies think of dating such men?
Edgy neckbeards who think they’re sticking it to “the man” by barely participating in real life while still having the audacity to leech off their parents, and failing to see the irony. No self-efficacy skills, nor a desire to learn them. Pathetic.
The reason they think life is pointless is because they are pointless. They have made no effort to grow as a human, so of course they perceive everything as pointless. The audacity to be gifted with a life and to make nothing of it. People get terminal illnesses, people who are losing their life too early would give everything to get another shot at life. The fucking audacity of nihilists.
The meaning of life is to make life meaningful. Sure, nothing does matter and we all end up dead, but we may as well enjoy the process and learn a few things along the way while we’re here, right?
Nihilists are just determined to be miserable, there is no point in engaging with them.
Women are nihilistic because they live in a world that despises them because everyone came from their wombs. Men are nihilistic because they can't get a 12 year old Victoria secret model mommy mcbangmaid who has the maturity and competence level of a 50 year old woman.
This might be harsh but I can't stand men who are very into philosophy, they're so obnoxious and annoying. They're almost the counter part of very religious men. Plus, it seems most philosophies have very misogynistic roots so it's a big no go. Believe whatever you like dude, but how about doing so in silence? I don't care if half of the male population think that life is meaningless, I honestly just want them to shut up about it. They're so noisy, so pessimistic, so boring, so pathetic. They think they're such eDGe lORdS, they think they're so bAsEd but I can sense the small dick energy from miles away. It's a waste of energy to engage with them and most of the time they'd try to drag you down too. This is why I have a hard time empathizing with the current male's loneliness/suicide crisis, they only think about themselves and it's women and children who often suffer the consequences of their stupid beliefs.
Men often act like their indifference to suffering (especially that caused by other men) is a perk when it's a deficiency in my eyes. They call it stoicism, nihilism or "detachment", but it's basically all misanthropy. I've also seen lots of male content creators glorifying pain and constantly reminding everyone that life is shitty, so we should all just accept that and move on. Never try to improve anything, never try to create circumstances that reduce suffering, no, that's all futile. I cannot get behind this worldview. It's so passive and defeatist and also male-centric (because it accepts the heartless systems men have created as natural and unavoidable). Men as a whole tend to revel in destruction and pain, whereas women are more often motivated by growth, beauty and improvement. I still believe a better life for myself and is possible and I'm not giving up on it because a man told me so. There's always thousands of reasons NOT to do something, coming up with the thousand and first reason is not a feat of great intelligence. It's just pessimism. I don't want to become that numb to emotions and experiences. It might be a "weakness" to feel like things matter, but I'd rather have that than a meaningless life.
In my own experience:
Usually it’s men who don’t think there is a point in being employed because then they would just be expected to pay their own way on things.
god forbid there be any expectations in life for them. If they keep using women to pay for their way then that’s just what those women come to expect and do for them. It’s all just to condition people around them to really think they are depressed and don’t see the point of trying in life. then people feel bad for them and take care of them.
It all boils down to the inability to make most of the resources at hand, which I believe is very essential in any given situation and life in general. And if a man cannot have that train of thinking then he definitely loses value. Having a "Nothing matters" mindset 24/7 will easily translate to his gf/wife/date and even family not being of importance and we don't want that ever.
In my personal experience, men with nihilistic beliefs tend to be low value sociopaths —just black holes devoid of any light or joy. Nothing is enough for them. Nothing fills their void. Only hating and hurting people makes them happy. Run far, far away.
I remember another member brought up a similar question about metal heads. The general consensus was most men are scrotes and to vet as usual. But I find that simplistic as there are clearly communities of men where scrotery is at an all time high. And I think nihilistic subcultures are one of those. What mentally stable man, ambitious, self aware, altruistic man would find whining ineffectually against the govt as a suitable use of his time on earth? You’re very very likely to find men who are warped, unstable and extremely entitled in these spaces. People that think the world should bend for their comfort are very likely to be very exploitative towards women. Like for instance, a man with hv traits that wants to live free from govt influence would maybe work to create a life that echoes this for himself, instead of whining on some shadowy reddit sub. He would work to acquire property where he lives off the land, adopt sustainable methods of living. Become active in homesteading spaces or other spaces with aligned values.
Philosobros are so annoying to me. They do nothing but whine all day about life and what they can get out of it. They are incredibly sexist and think that makes them deep and misunderstood. They think nihilism is so cool because they saw that anime character Johan Liebert and think they can be as smooth as him. Like sir, you're not even half as good looking as that cartoon, bffr.
Tbh, a lot of men get into philosophy as a tactic to pick up women and make themselves sound more intelligent than they really are, and sadly a lot of young women fall for it. I know I did years ago.
That just sounds like being an asshole with/without sociopathy and/or other personality disorders.
Nihilism is fine as long as the person engaging with it recognizes that it's nothing more than a thought experiment that isn't in any way actionable in the real world.
Basically, the dudes you describe are self-absorbed, navel-gazing loser scrotes who need to go outside and breathe fresh air before they become a danger to others.
Personally, I don’t like or trust them. I am agnostic, but I give meaning to my own life. I believe all the things I do have reactions and consequences, especially if you look into the butterfly effect. Every choice we make in life will affect yourself or someone else. Don’t date them. They aren’t high value and will add nothing to your life because they already believe life is meaningless so they do bare minimum and don’t try to achieve much in life
On some level, nothing matters - at least in the cosmic sense, as far as we can tell religions are bullshit and all that. BUT:
We make our own meaning, and doomer dudes are honestly the worst types, because they don't see the point of doing anything at all, so they don't. They also tend to have a negative view of women. I'm somewhat of a misanthrope in the sense that I think we're a relatively dumb and violent species that probably didn't deserve to get as far as we did. But I'm also of the opinion that we should make ourselves better as a species. And these guys don't want to do that. They don't even want to make themselves better on a personal level.
Negative value; avoid.
The biggest hypocrites you'll come across, even lower than New Agers (but not by much) and male "feminists."
Often a cover for a low-empathy Cluster B disorder; always a sign of lazy intellect and unexamined entitlement.
Hmmm. They are often depressed. I used to date one. Moral relativism makes them immoral. I don’t advise, they don’t have string principles. Moreover they like to play strong men but get depressed very easily. My first bf was like this. When he ended up being racist (toward me) I was the one ending up being gaslighted 💀(you’re a victim you always want to save the weak bla bla bla)
Nihilism is actually so much better, they just like to complain. Its more like a nothing matters <3 than a nothing matters :(. Its supposed to set you free and remind you that when nothing matters, everyting we do does matter. We give things meaning because we choose to do them. All the other sad bs can go.
Sad to hear the stuff about Nietsche, I was excited to read some of his stuff. Why are men so annoying seriously cant they for one second stop jerking each other off talking about how much better they are than every other being on earth? Male arrogance is the most consistent thing we were cursed with, it never ends.